A man who left shotgun ammunition in a ute he loaned accused murderer Benjamin Glenn Hoffmann before he shot four people in Darwin says he did not give him the gun.
The 47-year-old pleaded not guilty to four counts of murder in less than an hour on the afternoon of June 4, 2019.
Earlier today, one of Hoffmann’s companions, Michael Makrylos, visited a gun and ammunition store and purchased 50 Winchester 12-gauge shotgun shells.
He also bought a 12-inch Bowie knife, which he left in the backseat of his white Toyota Hilux, along with the ammunition, when he loaned the ute to Hoffmann.
Mr Makrylos said he knew the ammunition and the knife were in the car when Hoffmann left, but denied purchasing them for him.
“We were going to hunt on the weekends and I wanted to use the weapon,” he told the Northern Territory Supreme Court.
“I haven’t used it for a while.”
Mr Makrylos, licensed owner of three shotguns, also denied giving Hoffmann the Winchester Defender double barreled shotgun that police found in the Ute after arresting him.
He also said he bought the knife for his 11-year-old daughter and replied “I’m not too sure” when prosecutor Lloyd Babb SC asked if his wife knew about it.
“When you bought the knife, you told the Coolalinga Guns and Ammo salesperson that you were buying it for a friend, didn’t you? Mr. Babb asked.
“I don’t think so,” replied Mr. Makrylos.
“You’re lying when you say you bought it for your daughter, aren’t you?” asked Mr. Babb.
“No, I’m not lying buddy,” replied Mr. Makrylos.
Mr. Makrylos confirmed that he knew leaving ammunition unsecured was an offense under NT law.
He also agreed that Hoffmann was talking about “gibberish” when the couple met on June 4.
“It just didn’t make sense,” Mr. Makrylos said.
Mr Makrylos said he had known Hoffmann for a long time but hadn’t seen him for about a year before the two met early on June 4.
Defense lawyer Jon Tippett QC told Mr. Makrylos that if he “had not given him the shotgun four people would not have been killed.”
But Mr. Babb objected to it before Mr. Makrylos could respond.
The Crown says Hoffmann used the ute Hilux to get to the Palms Motel in Darwin’s CBD where he shot dead his first victim, Hassan Baydoun, 33, around 5:38 p.m.
Hoffman then allegedly shot Nigel Hellings, 75, in a building next door to Garden Hills Crescent and Michael Sisois, 57, in a parking lot at The Buff Club bar and restaurant.
Rob Courtney, 52, was stabbed more than 30 times and shot at a Darwin Recycling industrial site.
The trial continues on Monday.
Associated Australian Press